The tank remained at Böblingen until early October when orders were given to move it to Kummersdorf. General Data US Naval Technical Mission in Europe Report. Historical Division European Command. The Maus was an enormous waste — and not the war-winning weapon the Nazis hoped it would be. Krupp was involved in creating an improved turret, which was known as the Maus II Turm. Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus was a German World War II super-heavy tank completed in late 1944. Developed From Only 4% of the defense budget was spent on armored fighting vehicle (AFV) production. War Office. The rush to deliver the Maus meant that production began quickly by Krupp and was well underway by the summer of 1943. US Navy. Whilst they are assumed to share a common turret-ring size (larger than that of the original Maus), and the same guns (12.8 and 7.5 cm over-and-under) and same general layout, they were not the same. Five were ordered, but only two hulls and one turret were completed, the turret being attached, before the testing grounds were captured by advancing Soviet military forces. The Maus was the greatest vehicle of this type to have ever been produced. auf schwerer Zugkraftwagen 18t, 8cm R-vielfachwerfer auf Fahgestell S 303(f), leichter Schützenpanzerwagen (schwerer Granatwerfer), 5cm PaK 38 (Sf) auf leichter Zugkraftwagen 1t, 7,5cm PaK 40 (Sf) auf Fahrgestell S 307(f), leichter Schützenpanzerwagen mit Sfl 5cm PaK 38 L/60, Panzerjäger S307(f) mit 7,5cm PaK 40 L/46, kleines Kettenkraftrad für Feldkernkabel, kleines Kettenkraftrad für schweres Feldkernkabel, leichter gepanzerter Beobachtungskraftwagen, mittlerer gepanzerter Zugkraftwagen S303(f), 2cm FlaK 30 auf Volkswagen Schwimmwagen Type 166, schwerer geländegängiger Lastkraftwagen 4,5t Mercedes-Benz L4500A als Flakwagen für 3,7cm FlaK 36, Selbstfahrlafette auf Fahrgestell VOMAG 7 OR 660 mit 8,8cm FlaK 36, https://firearmcentral.fandom.com/wiki/Panzerkampfwagen_Maus_II?oldid=24659, Full title: PANZER TRACTS No.6-3 Schwere Panzerkampfwagen Maus and E 100 development and production from 1942 to 1945, Authors: Thomas L. Jentz, Hilary Louis Doyle, Full title: PANZER TRACTS No.20-1 Paper Panzers Panzerkampfwagen, Sturmgeschuetz, and Jagdpanzer. Frohlich, M. (2016). Maus II is not just about the Holocaust, it is also about the tortured relationship between the author and his father. In actual tank-on-tank encounters the German armor performed poorly, but as a coherent unit, the combined arms tactic of the Blitzkrieg shocked the Allies. The Maus II turret was too large for the original Maus hull and, at the very minimum, would have necessitated the removal of the original hull roof and replacing it with a ring large enough to take the new turret. Maus)’ – May 1945 The Maus can be a menace in the battlefie… The only practical difference between the Maus II turm and the turret selected for the E100 design by Adler was that the armor on the turret was changed to reduce the weight. At this time, the Maus was still mounting a test-weight ‘turret’ known as the Einsatzgewicht to load the hull as if a turret was mounted. Balance-wise, those are quite similiar vehicles, but the Maus II turret is better armored. The Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus was one such weapon. Horizontal range finder This was not the same 7.5 cm gun as used on the Maus-turm. The Maus is the heaviest tank in the anime series (weighing over 188 metric tons), the turret alone weighing more than a Panther. z.V.g.E.u.Lz. WOW……. Firstly, the turret ring was to be enlarged on the hull to accommodate this new and improved turret, which would also make it more stable and make the vehicle less cramped. We could’ve known so much by now, it would be amazing. Yet, despite the impressive achievement of making this rolling behemoth, the vehicle stands as a testimony to the total waste taking place in the German industry and the inefficiencies inherent in the … Also unlike the Maus, which mounted these two guns side by side, the Maus II design was to mount them in an ‘over-and-under’ style, with the 7.5 cm gun mounted on top. Post-war evidence also suggests that all of these hulls also had Maus-turm turrets welded-up ready for them, as these four hulls and turrets were found by Allied forces after the capture of Krupp’s factory and testing ground in 1945. m. 5,5cm v.at.wa. Intelligence Bulletin March 1946. SdKfz 205. (1976). Armament Krupp’s work on this new turret was underway by August 1944 in both options (the 1:5 and 1:10 scale models with and without the new rangefinder, respectively), but to make them he was forced to scavenge parts from the original 1:1 scale model for the first Maus turret which was at Kummersdorf. Panzer Tracts No.6-3 Schwere Panzerkampfwagen Maus and E 100. Development Technical Intelligence Summary Report 182 Appendix F and G Only one complete prototype was built before the testing grounds were captured by the advancing Soviet forces. This website uses cookies to improve your experience. The earliest recovered documents for the Maus are dated 1/1/43, so it is almost certain the tank would have started life earlier than that. All about the tank: hidden stats, armor, 3D model It is not even clear quite when Maus II was completely terminated, as work on the turrets was still going on in August 1944, a month after the spare Maus hulls were ordered scrapped. These had also been planned for the original Typ 205 from the end of 1942. Professor Porsche’s Wars. The Panzerkampfwagen Maus II is a German design for a super heavy tank. Of course Hitler had to go them one better. Get all 4 Tank Encyclopedia Magazine issues for 25% off! Visually, they would have been very similar, with only the slightly narrower rangefinder distinguishing the two from the outside. This would mean that the turrets would not be interchangeable between the Maus and Maus II. Technical Intelligence Summary Report 178 Appendix E It is the heaviest fully enclosed armoured fighting vehicle ever built. No Maus II was ever built and no turret finished. The German Mouse. Your email address will not be published. Maus II would not be a new vehicle, but the improvement of the first design, most noticeably in the turret. In March 1944, Porsche attempted to restart the Maus program after it was severely hindered by bombing raids. Opinions about the Maus tend to be extreme opposites, some believe that the Maus was the Wehrmacht's last hope, others say that it was the proverbial straw that … The Pz.Kpfw. Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus (Mouse) was a German World War II super-heavy tank completed in late 1944. Mounting the 7.5 cm gun on top of the 12.8 cm and with a vertical breech would leave it almost impossible to reload otherwise. Motor Buch Verlag 44 L/36), but this was not required on the Maus II as a shorter 7.5 cm gun could be used. Bearing in mind that, when Porsche first saw the Maus-turm on the full-sized mockup in May 1943, he disliked the curved front, concerned that it could deflect shells into the hull roof, it should be no surprise that the Maus II-turm would look quite different. Technical Information and Documents Unit, London. And by favoring their “own” tank designs, the people at kubinka only show how bigoted and childish they still are so long after the war. On 16/17 April 1944, Wa Prüf 6 met with Krupp to discuss improvements for the vehicle. 1942. június 8-án Hitler szóban megállapodott Porsche professzorral egy különlegesen nehéz harckocsi kifejlesztéséről, amelyet ironikusan Mausnak neveztek. (4th June 1945). Dr. Porsche had made a series of suggestions to modify the original turret, including wholly impractical ideas for sub-turrets and anti-aircraft guns, but his primary suggestion of note was to change the front profile of the turret by turning the curve in the bottom half the other way. If that was the case, there would be 8 Maus I tanks and 22 Maus IIs potentially even before considering any new contracts for renewed mass production to the original Maus I levels. Maus II, therefore, was not a recycling of one of the original Maus-turms, but a new turret and this was mentioned by Porsche when he requested a ‘Maus-II turm’ from Krupp. Next to him Professor Dr Porsche, behind him Minister of Armaments Speer. It is understood that the original Maus was, at one time or another, envisaged with a rather large variety of engines and options and that, whilst it eventually got a modified version of the Daimler-Benz MB 517 1,200 hp V-12 Diesel engine, it had suffered through using the less-powerful MB 509 1,080 hp V-12 Petrol due to shortages of engines. Porsche, F. Bericht Uber die Werksorprobung des Typ 205/1 in Böblingen von 11.1 – 3.2.1944 These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Artie confesses to his wife, Francoise, "When I was a kid I used to think about which of my parents I'd let the Nazis take to the ovens if I could only save one of them. In May 1943, after production had started, it was realized that, due to manufacturing tolerances on the very substantial side armor plates, the first hulls were ‘out-of-gauge’, namely they were too wide for the standard rail width in Germany. Place of Origin Panzerkampfwagen Maus’. A 128-mm KwK-44 L / 55 anti-tank gun was installed on Maus and was an important characteristic. Spezialpanzerfahrzeuge des Deutschen Heeres. Development. 4,7cm PaK 36(t) (Sf) auf Fahrgestell Panzerkampfwagen I, s.kl.Pz.Kpfw. (1953). Robert Beckhusen [2]. One of the most iconic tanks in all of history had a second variant!? Motor Buch Verlag. Bearing in mind the first 7 vehicles would in the event of a resumption of production clearly be finished as Maus with the Maus-turm, it is a fair assumption that plans for this second turret would be intended for hulls 8 onwards, with a potential to finish at 22 tanks in this manner using the armor already available (for the hulls). At 188 tonnes, it is the heaviest operational tank ever made by any nation at any time in any war and was made despite the shortages of raw materials, industrial capacity, and manpower at the time in Nazi Germany. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. The relationship between the E100 turret and that for Maus II is almost equally as opaque. By mounting the 7.5 cm gun above the primary armament, much of that problem was removed as the gun was much higher up and this meant that the original 7.5 cm L/24 could be used instead. Super Heavy Tank War Office. (1945). Most importantly, though, was the incorporation of Porsche’s concerns over the front shape. Cobi Panzer Maus B, 2cm FlaK 30 auf Fahrgestell Zugkraftwagen 1t, 2cm Flak 38 auf Fahrgestell Zugkraftwagen 1t, 2cm Flak 38 (Sf) auf leichter Zugkraftwagen 3t, 2cm Flakvierling 38 (Sf) auf mittlerer Zugkraftwagen 8t, 3,7cm FlaK 43 (Sf) auf schwerer Wehrmacht Schlepper, 5cm FlaK 41 (Sf) auf mittlerer Zugkraftwagen 5t, 8,8cm FlaK 18 (Sf) auf schwerer Zugkraftwagen 12t, 8,8cm FlaK 37 (Sfl.) By the end of the war two Maus’ had been produced, with production plans for another 150. A second hull would follow later and would be paired up with a finished Maus-turm and be used for testing, but, for all intents and purposes, by the end of 1943, the Maus idea was dead in the water. Number Built C mit schweres Wurfgerät 41 28-32cm, Ladungsleger auf Panzerkampfwagen I Ausf. Obviously, any upgunning of the E100 turm to a 15 cm or 17.4 cm gun would cement the visual differences between the two. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. VIII Maus is a rank V German heavy tank with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB) and 7.7 (RB/SB). At this time, the Maus II-turm did not exist outside of some sketches of the initial design, as a contract for the production of a 1:5 scale Maus model with Maus-II turm was not issued until 8th April 1944. World of Tank wise, Maus II would provide a historical tier 10 alternative to the regular Maus. In August 1944,Krupp informed Wa Prüf 6 that they had begun work on the scale models of the Maus II Turm on 12 August 1944, they were using components from the Maus I Turm. This production though would be starting from hull number 8 (for which armor had been cut) onwards. Designed by At this time, production of the original Maus vehicle had already begun, with the project having been approved for mass production shortly beforehand. It could be assumed that a new order for Maus production in the form of Maus II would have led to a replacement of the twin-bogie system. (20th December 1945). These were to include an improved ventilation system in the turret with a fume extractor directly over the 12.8 cm ammunition bin and a new breech for the 7.5 cm gun which opened horizontally rather than vertically, as this would make loading possible. The E100 turret was announced as finished by 17th May 1944, yet work on Maus II turret was still continuing, suggesting further changes were still being considered, but after this date the project disappears. (11th October 1945). The mount would go from a side-by-side mounting with the 12.8cm Kw.K. u sovětských tanků T-34 , které měly rovněž naftové motory. Sawodny, M., Bracher, K. (1978). There were also numerous other ideas for even more powerful, lighter, smaller power plants for tanks, but so far as is known in the development of Maus II, the MB 517 is the most likely option. BIOS report 1343: German Steel Armour Piercing Projectiles and Theory of Penetration. Maus turret and hull Maus turret at the Krupp factory in Essen. However, it was not until March 1944 that Hitler would intervene. Panzer VIII Maus V1 in front of 7th Ersatz Panzer Regiment barracks, 14 January 1944 . Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The tank arrived at Böblingen on March 20th, 1944. Jentz, T., Doyle, H. (2008). Panzerkampfwagen III Ausf. Rangefinder 44 (Maus)’) with a 7.5 cm gun. 360° The Maus was an enormous waste — and not the war-winning weapon the Nazis hoped it would be At nearly 200 tonnes, the Maus, fully loaded and ready for combat, was a feat of engineering which lacked a purpose by the time it was finished. It was the heaviest tank ever built in history. Panzerkampfwagen VIII Maus ("Mouse") was a German World War II super-heavy tank completed in late 1944. Měla ho obsluhovat posádka 5–6 mužů. Keeping this arrangement would, in fact, have reduced the space so much that the 12.8 cm gun would not have been able to fit in the turret properly. Germany (Deutsches Reich) Maz Online.de at https://www.maz-online.de/Lokales/Teltow-Flaeming/Luckenwalde/Koebe-Fabrik-von-Hermann-Koebe-in-Luckenwalde-vor-140-Jahren-gegruendet Elefant and Maus. By the time of the project cancellation, the partially completed plates, hulls and turrets were still at Krupp’s Essen plant and only one hull was actually operable. Gun Pak.44 on Pz.Jag. The original Maus turm was sat on a turret-race attached within a 2,959 mm diameter opening in the hull, allowing for the 2,388 mm diameter basket to rotate within it. Spezialpanzerfahrzeuge des Deutschen Heeres. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. It is debated to this day if the Maus ever saw combat, although Russian accounts say that it saw combat at the factory where one was captured and also during the Russian advance into Germany. That assessment had shown that a resumption of Maus production at Krupp would need an additional 200 workers per month and could deliver vehicles at a rate of just 2 per month, just a fifth of the 10 per month which had originally been suggested. A, Ladungsleger auf Panzerkampfwagen I Ausf. Technical Report 485-45 – German Powder Composition and Internal Ballistics for Guns. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Interestingly, the two tanks were termed the Maus I and Maus II, and they had different engines. That single complete prototype unit underwent trials in late 1944. It was introduced in Update 1.47 "Big Guns" as a main tree vehicle, however as of Update 1.91 "Night Vision" it was shifted to become a gift vehicle for players who previously owned it. Misc Specs But Maus is huge with big guns and such, very impressive. Tank byl 10,9 metru dlouhý, 3,76 Å¡iroký a 3,66 vysoký a vážil cca 188,8 tun (pro srovnání nejpoužívanějÅ¡í ruský tank T-34 vážil 30,9 tun). Main Gun(s) The German Panzer VIII tank of World War II, codenamed the Maus tank, was intended to be the biggest, best-armored and most powerful tank ever built – and the prototypes that were built succeeded in achieving these goals. On 8th April 1944, a contract had been issued for an improved Maus turret to be modeled in 1:5 scale. Je vÅ¡ak třeba si uvědomit, že pro sériový tank Maus se počítalo s dieselovým motorem a nafta, narozdíl od benzínu, zase tak snadno nevzplane. Even after the original Maus hulls (3 to 6) were ordered scrapped in July 1944, work was continuing on models of the Maus II turret. 44 L/55 gun on the left and the 7.5 cm gun on the right to an ‘over-and-under’ mounting with the smaller gun mounted on top. War Office. However, without drawings, plans, or documentary evidence, this remains speculative only. (25th April 1945). For the Maus, it was a long-barrelled (to avoid gas from the propellant entering the hull-roof vents when it was fired) 7.5 cm gun (7.5 cm Kw.K. Only one complete prototype was built before the testing grounds were captured by the advancing Soviet forces. Hitler visits a lifelike wooden model of the ‘Maus’. (1946). Meanwhile, work on the Maus II continued. FirearmCentral Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. On 15th May 1944, the contract for the 1:5 scale model of the Maus-II turm was changed to include an additional model in 1:10 scale to incorporate a new range finder (EM – entfernungsmesser), which was slightly narrower than the original one (1.9 to 2 m long instead of 2.1 m). Other Maus prototypes (mainly just unassembled hulls) were capture… Krupp The engine was only ready in September. Professor Porsche’s Wars. Good HP, Low DPM, Penetration 246, Damage 460, Reload time: 10.95, High damage. Jagdtiger and Maus gun mantlets can also be seen on the left. Type (September 1945). Spielberger, W., Milson, J. AFV Weapons Profile No.61. The Panzerkampfwagen Maus II is a German design for a super heavy tank. War Office. Following an Allied bombing raid of the Krupp plant on 4th August 1943, production of the Maus ground to a halt, with work on 30 hulls at various stages of completion. The Maus was probably influenced by a trend toward producing heavy tanks that many Allied armor developers were experimenting with during the middle years of World War II. The story of the Maus II, an improved version of the Maus, is a complicated one and one for which the entire story may never be known. Maus byl vyzbrojen 128mm dělem s koaxiálním 75mm kanónem a jedním 7,92 mm kulometem. A month or so later, on 16th/17th April 1943, Krupp met with Wa Prüf 6 to discuss the improvements to the Maus-turm. Maus is one of the most famous German tanks. Gone was the curved front and it was replaced with a single flat plate angled back. Considering that hulls 3 to 6 had manufacturing tolerance issues and needed reworking just to fulfill the needs of the Maus, it is perhaps more likely that Maus II would simply have started from Maus hull 8 onwards, incorporating the manufacturing improvements needed to stay within gauge. 10.085 long (9.034 without gun), 3.7 wide (series max. Technical Intelligence Summary Report 180 Appendix D Daimler Benz MB 517 V-12 Petrol 44.5 litre – 1,200 hp @ 2,500 rpm. Rather than scrap these vehicles, it was decided to modify them along with the ones moving through the production line to bring them back into gauge. On top of this casting was a second large steel casting forming the mantlet around the gun. This medium battle tank was recently raised again in WT from BR 6.7 to BR 7.0. Seems like sometime in 1943 they realized they needed better weapons after all and development of these two were put back on the front burner. US Army. British Intelligence Objectives Sub-Committee. War Office. Maus turret and hull after being captured by the Allies . On June 8, 1942, Dr Ferdinand Porsche in Stuttgart received an order from Hitler to begin designing a super heavy main battle tank armed with a 12.8-cm cannon and a coaxial 7.5-cm cannon in a turret, which would have the largest possible armor. That month saw Hitler demand an update from Wa Pruef 6 as to the status of the Maus program and demanded that the Maus which had been completed to undergo testing and further development. War Office. US Army. Tiger (Pz.Kpfw. Spielberger, W. (1998). Only prototypes were ever produced which were soon captured by the Red army. Likewise, the fact that hulls 3 to 6 for the Maus were not, in fact, scrapped has also been seen as evidence supporting the idea that Maus II was not much more than an improved turret for the original hull. Panzerkampfwagen Maus und andere deutsche Panzerprojekte. US Army. The second hull arrived at Böblingen around this time too and mounted the newly produced turret. 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